乔治-希尔完美适配骑士，但骑士出什么筹码呢？送走罗斯太伤人心

[–][DET] Ben Wallaceyescerritos 49 指標 4小時前

I imagine they'd flip a bad contact or two as part of the trade. At least that bad contact would improve their team.

我想作为交易的一部分，他们应该会甩掉一到两个烂合同，至少甩掉这些烂合同之后会对球队有帮助。

[–]Brandonlngram 31 指標 4小時前

They'd have to give the Kings more value than that though. Kings aren't just gonna take a worse contract and be fine with it. Cavs have other problems to solve and getting a PG on a bad contract isn't one of them.

但是骑士还是得给国王更有价值的东西来交易的，国王不可能随便就接受一个更烂的合同还乐呵呵的。骑士还有其他问题要解决，再弄来一个身背垃圾合同的控卫可不是解决方法。

[–][OKC] Paul GeorgePervy_Sensei 101 指標 4小時前

Cleveland, where point guards go to die

克利夫兰，见证控卫凉凉之地。

[–]CavaliersChemLok 85 指標 4小時前

Jose, when on the court, has been great

骑士球迷：卡尔德隆上场的时候发挥还是很不错的。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 34 指標 3小時前

Just like the rest of your roster he is a defensive sieve

奇才球迷：就像你骑阵容里的其他人一样，他就是个漏勺。

[–]Cavaliersclebrink 11 指標 3小時前

Not really, our PG position has been pretty strong the past few years. Kyrie (obviously before this year), IT is only five games back from injury, and Jose and Wade have been pretty good this year as well.

骑士球迷：也不全是这样，近几年我们控卫位置上的球员都挺强的。欧文（emm今年之前），还有小托马斯，他伤后复出其实也才打了五场比赛，卡尔德隆和韦德今年也打的很好啊。

[–]PacersGritznGravy23 14 指標 3小時前

Hill can play the 2 next to IT. He's way better than JR, and Wade at this point in Wades career. Who would you rather have defend Klay, Wade or Hill? I'd take Hill. Plus he shoots the 3 ball equally as well as JR.

步行者球迷：希尔可以跟小托马斯一起搭档首发，打2号位啊。他比JR和处于职业生涯现阶段的韦德vsk多了。你觉得你更希望谁来防守克莱-汤普森，韦德还是希尔？要我就选希尔了，况且他射3分跟JR的水平差不多啊。

[–]Spursan_abundance_of_pugs 315 指標 4小時前

i’ll take things i didn’t think i’d ever hear for 500 alex

马刺球迷：骑士对乔治-希尔感兴趣..……活久见。

[–]CelticsUpvoteIfYouAgreee 608 指標 4小時前

Not what I was expecting

万万没想到啊。

[–]LakersZodraz 144 指標 4小時前*

According to Amico: http://amicohoops.net/nba-rumors-cleveland-cavaliers-sacramento-kings-george-hill-nba-trade-deadline/

Shumpert, Frye, and Rose are rumored to be in the deal-- and presumably also Cleveland's own first round draft pick. The Kings have a full roster, so they would probably have to cut Malachi Richardson and Georgios Papagiannis to do a 3-for-1 deal.

Or they could add them to the deal but not sure they're worth the luxury tax hit to Cleveland...

湖人球迷：根据Amico的报道，香波特，弗莱和罗斯都会卷入这场交易中，想必骑士的首轮签也可能搭进去。国王现在的阵容很完整，所以他们现在可能会处理掉马拉奇-理查德森和乔治斯-帕帕扬尼斯，完成一个三换一的交易吧。

又或者说国王想把这两位也打包加入到这项交易中，但是这俩人不值骑士付出奢侈税吧。

[–]WarriorsVP_Linda_Green 182 指標 4小時前

barely seems worth it

勇士球迷：我觉得国王略亏。

[–]LakersZodraz 99 指標 4小時前

Why not? The Kings would save 8 M next year and get a mid-20s first rounder this year-- seems like a no-brainer.

湖人球迷：为什么？这样子的话国王明年可以节省下8百万的薪金，还得到了一个今年20多顺位的首轮签。国王肯定会同意啊！

[–]Jmcmaster412 120 指標 3小時前

If cavs trade their pick they cant trade the bkn pick cuz they traded their 2019 pick to atl

如果骑士把这个签交易出去了，那他们就不能再交易篮网签了，因为他们把2019年的签给了老鹰。[译注1]

[译注1]：根据NBA相关规定，球队在交易过程中，不得连续送出未来两年的首轮选秀权。

[–]KingsReggieEvansTheKing 65 指標 3小時前

Yeah, seems like a deadline deal that happens when CLE doesn't hit a home run trade with the BRK pick.

国王球迷：没错。这笔交易就算做，也是等临近交易截止日而骑士的篮网签还无用武之地的时候。

[–]KingsxClay2 27 指標 3小時前

Remove Rose from the deal and I'd be good with it. The Kings won't cut Malachi or Papa either. They're on rookie deals and the Kings used a 13th overall and 22nd overall pick on them.

只要把罗斯从这里拿掉，我对这个交易没意见。国王是不会裁掉马拉奇和帕帕扬尼斯的。他们还处于新秀合同中，而且是国王用13和22顺位选过来的。

[–]KingsTactial_snail 9 指標 3小時前

Amico said it so it's not true

Amico报道了这事，说明这绝壁不是真的。

[–]RaptorsRebooted23 11 指標 3小時前

Feel bad for Rose if this goes through. It seemed like he took a pay cut so that he could play with a contender

I'm sure he could've picked up at least MLE type of money from some team.

要真是这样的话，我真的会很为罗斯感到伤心。他主动降薪就是为了能够在冠军争夺球队里打球。他要是去别的一些队肯定至少能拿到中产阶级条款的合同啊。

[–]RocketsStony_Brooklyn 21 指標 3小時前

He’s vet min money at this point

罗斯现在就是老将底薪的水平。

[–][MIL] Brian Winterskentalaska 11 指標 2小時前

The dudes been getting paid far more than his level of play is worth for several years, I really wouldn't feel too bad for him.

之前几年罗斯的水平明显配不上他的合同，所以我倒是不会太为他感到难过。

[–][CLE] Derrick RoseMeo280 32 指標 3小時前

I’m fine with not trading the BKN pick.

骑士球迷：只要没有把篮网签换出去，我没意见。

[–]HeatOutlookNotGood 29 指標 3小時前

But will Lebron be?

但勒布朗也会这么想吗？

[–]Cavaliersdraino3112 45 指標 2小時前

he's going to be 34 next year and the Warriors aren't slowing down anytime soon. If it pisses him off so much that he leaves, so be it. We just have a head start on a post Warriors/post LeBron NBA.

Love Bron to the core but at some point, it time to start looking at the bigger picture. This isn't 2009.

骑士球迷：詹姆斯明年就34岁了，而且目前看来勇士也不大可能会放慢自己争夺冠军的脚步。所以如果管理层的决定让他觉得气不过要离开的话，也只能这样。我们就只能在后勇士或后勒布朗NBA时代里重新开始了。

我爱詹姆斯爱到骨子里了，但也是时候以大局为重了。现在也不是2009年了。

[–][BOS] K.C. Jonesljg61 21 指標 2小時前

If you have faith in your team's front office, you are a brave soul.

凯尔特人球迷：如果你信任你骑管理层的话，你是真的勇敢。

[–]CelticsBrad-Stevens 224 指標 5小時前

Hmmm he makes 20 mill this yr, then 19, then 18

凯尔特人球迷：emmmm,希尔今年薪水是两千万，明年1900万，再下一年1800万美元。

[–]LakersZodraz 168 指標 4小時前

third year only guaranteed for 1M

第三年只有一百万美元的保障工资。

[–]CelticsBrad-Stevens 42 指標 4小時前

ahhh ok. still might have to be a 3 teamer

啊那好吧，但是估计还是要三方交易啊。

[–]KingsDemonicDimples 31 指標 4小時前

Nah, Shump, Frye and Cavs pick works

不用，香波特 弗莱 骑士首轮签就ok的。

[–][BOS] Jaylen BrownNightlightscareme 17 指標 4小時前

Why TF why would the King’s take that?

神特么，国王为什么要答应这个交易？

[–]fallifall 57 指標 4小時前

Frye's contract is expiring, Shumpert's ends in the 2018-19 season. If they don't want to deal with Hill's attitude then they gain 8 mil in salary space and get a late first round pick for a player who doesn't want to be there.

弗莱的合同这个休赛期到期，而香波特的合同打完下赛季就到期了。如果国王不想再忍受希尔的不端正的态度，那国王可以用一个不想呆在球队的球员换来八百万美元的薪金空间和一个首轮末位签。

[–][SAC] Bonzi WellsGeneralShepard 78 指標 4小時前

I'd take that pretty quick. Basically sending away 19 million next season for 11 million next season and picking up a first rounder. Easy decision, should have never signed Hill in the first place.

国王球迷：要我的话就赶紧答应了。这个交易差不多等于拿下个赛季1900万美元的合同来换下个赛季1100万的和一个首轮签。轻松拍板不用思考啊。我们一开始就不该签下希尔。

[–]Warriorsanus_kanter 20 指標 4小時前

I may be wrong, but doesn't that put Cleveland in a worse position? They have plenty of backcourt depth in Wade, Rose, IT, and Calderon, so I would imagine that if they wanted Hill he would have to replace one or two of their current backcourt players.

Giving up Frye also doesn't sound ideal, since he's a solid floor spacer for them as a big man.

勇士球迷：我说的不一定是对的，但是这么做的话骑士不是亏了吗？他们有着很给力的后场深度，像韦德、罗斯、小托马斯和卡尔德隆，我在想，如果骑士想得到希尔，他是得顶替掉一到两个目前的后场球员的。

把弗莱放走也不太理想，毕竟对于骑士来说，他作为大个子的拉开空间的能力很好啊。

[–]Clippersuziair 44 指標 4小時前

I rather be playing hill than rose and Calderon

快船球迷：换我的话，我宁愿让希尔上场打球也不愿意让罗斯和卡尔德隆上去打。

[–][CLE] Iman ShumpertUnbiasedExpert 34 指標 4小時前

I'd start him over JR

骑士球迷：我认为希尔可以代替JR首发。

[–][CHI] Derrick Rosejeric13xd 95 指標 2小時前

TT’s bumass ain’t going anywhere

TT这没人要的货就在克利夫兰烂着吧。

[–][OKC] Carmelo Anthonyh0laSeni0r 142 指標 2小時前

Hill to the Cavs sounds pretty solid to me.

Hill's weakness is playmaking but LBJ covers that part of the game completely.

Hill can defend, knock down shots, and slash inside the paint.

雷霆球迷：我觉得希尔去骑士挺稳的。

希尔的缺点就是没有办法串联球队，但LBJ完全可以弥补他在比赛这方面的缺失。

而且他会防守，能投，还可以在油漆区得分。

[–]Bohusbo 84 指標 2小時前

Exactly. What the Cavs need is a guy who knows his role and can play high IQ ball. We saw how effective Calderon has been simply because he is a high IQ player that doesn't try to do more than he's asked to do

就是啊。现在骑士需要的是明白自己场上角色的高球商球员。卡尔德隆在骑士一直打得不错，就是因为卡尔德隆是一名高球商球员，明白自己角色，不会逞能。

[–]RaptorsVinceJumpmanCarter[S] 59 指標 2小時前*

[Stein] It remains to be seen if the Cavs have the assets to acquire one or both of their top targets, but league sources say they are in active pursuit of both. @ShamsCharania first reported Cleveland’s interest in Hill.

Stein：骑士是否有足够的筹码来换取小乔丹和希尔？有待观察。但是联盟线报反映骑士现正在积极追求这两名球员。Shams Charania是第一个报道骑士对希尔感兴趣的。

[Stein] The Cavaliers have allso registered trade interest in the Clippers’ Lou Williams, according to league sources, with Cleveland vets such as Tristan Thompson and J.R. Smith featuring in various trade proposals.

Stein：骑士也对快船的路威有兴趣。主要的交易筹码是骑士的老将TT和JR。

[–]Knickshooskies 65 指標 2小時前

Spoiler: they don't.

剧透一下吧：筹码，是不存在的。

[–]CavaliersAyuhno 34 指標 2小時前

They definitely have enough for DJ if LA is going to give up on the season.

Honestly, I haven’t even watched an entire Kings game all year so I’m not sure if Hill’s value right now.

骑士球迷：如果快船打算这赛季摆烂的话，那骑士换来小乔丹还是没问题的。

讲真，我今年一场完整的国王比赛都没看过，所以我也不是很确定现在希尔的价值。

[–]PelicansRefAreYouBlind 35 指標 2小時前

But why would they give up

话说他们为什么要摆烂？

[–]GuessableSevens 34 指標 2小時前

LAC will not give up on their season though. That's the first premise and it seems unlikely.

对啊，快船不会摆烂的。骑士换小乔丹的前提就是快船决定摆烂，但是这个前提不成立啊。

[–]CelticsFultzisABust 140 指標 2小時前

Thomas/Hill/Lebron/Love/DJ is pretty insane

凯尔特人球迷：托马斯 希尔 勒布朗 乐福 小乔丹，这阵容很牛逼啊！

[–]Bohusbo 119 指標 2小時前

As a Cavs fan... Still not enough to move the needle against GSW, which is so depressing to realize that even this insane lineup can't compete

作为一名骑士球迷，我觉得这个阵容还是不足以撼动金州勇士的地位啊，想到我们这个这么厉害的阵容还是不能跟勇士抗衡就觉得很忧桑。

[–]pepedidnothingwrong2 64 指標 1小時前

Thanks a lot KD.

一首感恩的心送给KD。

[–][CLE] Kyle KorverA_A_lewis_ 18 指標 2小時前

I really doubt they move Jordan, it would make no sense that they keep the team together after cp3 leaves, give blake a big ass contract, and then immediately blow it up right after getting super hot and hitting a playoff seed

骑士球迷：我真的不认为快船会动小乔丹。在保罗走之后他们好不容易才把整个球队凝聚起来，还给了格里芬一个大合同，最近球队状态那么好，还打进了季后赛，没理由拆散球队啊。

[–]HornetsLarryIegend 40 指標 2小時前

Hill: Frye and JR/Shump for Hill. Kings save money and give Fox and Bogdan more minutes.

DJ: TT, Cedi and Nets pick for DJ

The offer should be close to this. Doubt the Clippers accept even if they should. They are deep in the playoff hunt.

黄蜂球迷：骑士能换来的球员方案：

希尔：弗莱 JR/香波特换来希尔。这个交易能让国王省下钱，还能给福克斯和波格丹腾出更多上场时间。

小乔丹：TT 奥斯曼 篮网签换小乔丹

最后的报价应该差不多是这样了。不过就算这是个很合理的报价，快船也不一定会接受。毕竟现在他们正水深火热地追逐季后赛席位呢。

[–]LakersWateriswet1212 43 指標 1小時前

The JR contract is worse than the Hill contract at this point. Kings decline quickly.

湖人球迷：在这个节骨眼，JR的合同比希尔的惨多了。国王肯定不会同意的。